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Base Trunks (First Post Rosat) vs Android 20 (Post Absorbtions)
Topic Started: Nov 29 2013, 11:30 PM (835 Views)
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I actually agree with Zombie on this.

I don't see anyone being potentially stronger in base than Freeza until the Cell Games, and only Goku and Gohan at best would have that chance. There's also absolutely no canon evidence for zenkai after Super Saiyan is achieved, and the Daiz mentioned that the Saiyans' base gains were minimal by this point in time.
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Dec 1 2013, 09:04 PM
I actually agree with Zombie on this.

I don't see anyone being potentially stronger in base than Freeza until the Cell Games, and only Goku and Gohan at best would have that chance. There's also absolutely no canon evidence for zenkai after Super Saiyan is achieved, and the Daiz mentioned that the Saiyans' base gains were minimal by this point in time.
In the cell games maybe,but in Buu arc every base saiyan is above Frieza by a longshot
-Base Kids been somewhat equal with 18 who is>Frieza by a lot
-Pui Pui is above Supreme Kai,who is above Frieza easily,and Vegeta in Base made him look like an ant
-Piccolo admitting complet inferiority to the the kids
Those are points in the manga that disapprove this illogical statement made by Bills :)
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"Looking at you, you don't seem like the one that can beat Freezer"- Birsu.

Being the resident Japanese person, Birsu says you don't SEEM!

Seem: to appear to be something or to do something : to have a quality, appearance, etc., that shows or suggests a particular characteristic, feeling, etc.

Goku is shown to be silly, playful, and clumsy in that scene. Does a clumsy fighter seem like the guy to beat the lord of the universe, feared everywhere, being tyranic and ruthless?

Nope. Base Saiyans>>>>>>>>Frieza
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Dec 1 2013, 09:18 PM
"Looking at you, you don't seem like the one that can beat Freezer"- Birsu.

Being the resident Japanese person, Birsu says you don't SEEM!

Seem: to appear to be something or to do something : to have a quality, appearance, etc., that shows or suggests a particular characteristic, feeling, etc.

Goku is shown to be silly, playful, and clumsy in that scene. Does a clumsy fighter seem like the guy to beat the lord of the universe, feared everywhere, being tyranic and ruthless?

Nope. Base Saiyans>>>>>>>>Frieza
Well good explanation
But it still means Goku is barely capable of taking Frieza on,normally and according to manga,he should still be far above him in M14
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